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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:18 PM
Have you already started developing them on your own?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:18 PM
I have not, bc I was not aware it was required
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I only just ordered the wood
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Deleted User 1/7/2021 9:18 PM
well you are saying they are talking abou spirits
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not thoughtforms
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:19 PM
and I explained how in this case, it's the same thing
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Deleted User 1/7/2021 9:19 PM
so it's still interpreted as a thoughtform not a spirit like
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a ghost
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:19 PM
It's a thoughtform with like, metaphysical power & influence I believe
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
Summoning an entity and binding them within an object is absolutely forbidden outside of extreme protective measures. But creating a thoughtform to serve the same purpose is allowed
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
Like egregores just bein a group spiritual tulpa, this is a spiritual tulpa bound to an object
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bodybody | Fox System
Like egregores just bein a group spiritual tulpa, this is a spiritual tulpa bound to an object
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
ye exactly
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Deleted User 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
hmm so what does a spiritual tulpa mean
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is it tulpa with different set of believes
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
making a spirit instead of grabbing one and going "you work for me now mf"
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Deleted User 1/7/2021 9:20 PM
or does the host interpret it as a spirit rather than a headmate
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Deleted User
or does the host interpret it as a spirit rather than a headmate
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:21 PM
this basically
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Deleted User 1/7/2021 9:21 PM
i see
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:21 PM
in a loose sense ppl that believe their tulpas have separate souls are like a spiritual tulpa
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:21 PM
There is a similar practice in my path known as a Rune Doll, which I suspect is taught in preparation for if someone decides to make a wand and find an athame
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:22 PM
but tulpa means different things to different folks, though they're all quite similar supernatural and other media have the spoopy metaphysical tulpas to give you an idea of what kind of things can also be considered a tulpa
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A Gaggle of Giggles
There is a similar practice in my path known as a Rune Doll, which I suspect is taught in preparation for if someone decides to make a wand and find an athame
bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:23 PM
from the name it sounds like a thoughtform creation
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I made runes for my tulpas back in the day when I practiced magic more
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bodybody | Fox System
from the name it sounds like a thoughtform creation
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:25 PM
It is, a kind of guardian/servant
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:26 PM
So now that I get what the practice is, why are you angry about it?
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The time sink, or not wanting to create spirits?
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Nobody should be pressuring you to do a thing like this is why I'd be uncomfortable
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:26 PM
Because I never wanted to create an actual tulpa in the first place. My head is mine
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/7/2021 9:27 PM
luckily you can just take a step back if you don't like it
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 9:27 PM
Wait how recently did this happen?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:27 PM
There's no pressure, I can leave the path if I choose, but I will give up my Mastery as a result and will have to let my apprentices go
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:27 PM
If they're spirits bound to an object, won't they only speak with you when you're near their object?
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Unfastened Belts
Wait how recently did this happen?
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:28 PM
like two minutes before I exploded about it here
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/7/2021 9:28 PM
how much work have you put into that so far?
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bodybody | Fox System
If they're spirits bound to an object, won't they only speak with you when you're near their object?
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:28 PM
not necessarily, a wand and athame are bonded to the practitioner, you can always call on them
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido]
how much work have you put into that so far?
A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:28 PM
over ten years
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/7/2021 9:28 PM
lol
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that's
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that must be unbelievably frustrating
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if someone tells you that after over 10 years
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:30 PM
wow yeah good lord
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I would say think it over for a while
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:32 PM
The gates are there for a reason, but I am speaking to a few other Masters about whether it was appropriate to confer my Mastery without educating me on the topics I was unaware of. It's possible my former Master will face repercussions but likely not anything permanent or long term given his age and how ill he is.
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:32 PM
maybe it'll encourage them to double check stuff like this in the future
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:34 PM
I sure fuckin hope so, I've also demanded to have access to the paths first grimoire to double check I'm not missing anything else, and that my Master undergoes a psych eval and MRI tests and such for senility
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he's like 72
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bodybody | Fox System 1/7/2021 9:36 PM
good luck with that
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I encourage you to seek out all the info
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:37 PM
thank
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 9:50 PM
Does your path have a name?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:50 PM
Covenant of the Shattered
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 9:51 PM
Thanks
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How did you come across it?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:52 PM
I was introduced and initiated by my former Master
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 9:52 PM
How'd you meet him?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 9:52 PM
He was just an old man that lived down the street from me, then he wasn't
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 10:00 PM
Wow awesome story haha
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You should write a book about it
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Covenant of the Shattered
Got the title right there
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 10:01 PM
Sure if I wanna immediately be kicked out (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 10:41 PM
Hahahaha
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Damn if that isn't an amazing title.
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Unfastened Belts 1/7/2021 11:29 PM
Right?!
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Jus' sayin'...
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goes on to write a bestseller fourteen years later and expose a thousands-of-years-old path to the world at large, thereby completely ruining it for everyone involved
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/7/2021 11:33 PM
thats why we barely have written sources and stick mostly to oral traditions lol
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bodybody | Fox System
I made runes for my tulpas back in the day when I practiced magic more
Lula! | 👻 1/7/2021 11:36 PM
I am trying to make/assign each of us sigils! Me at least, but hopefully everybody.
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Albino Elephant 1/8/2021 12:18 AM
Sounds like this tulpa wouldn't even be a headmate
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/8/2021 12:19 AM
I mean they'd live in the mindscape and be regularly interacted with
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Lula! | 👻 1/8/2021 4:40 AM
Sounds pretty tulpa-y then!
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Deleted User 1/8/2021 4:49 AM
hmm so a while ago i joined an occultism server and was messing with them, long story short the members got angry at me and they banned me but one of them sent me an image of what i assume is a sigil that kinda looked like a clock (edited)
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i dont believe in occult stuff but im curious to know what that means
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am i cursed or something lol
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Lula! | 👻 1/8/2021 5:01 AM
What do you mean by messing with them and can we see the image?
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Deleted User 1/8/2021 5:03 AM
it was a while ago, like years
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i dont really remember what i said, i think i was asking dumb questions like if i could create spells with cum or something like that, i dont recall doing anything other than just asking dumb questions to annoy them
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i dont have the image anymore
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i dont really remember what i said, i think i was asking dumb questions like if i could create spells with cum or something like that, i dont recall doing anything other than just asking dumb questions to annoy them
Lula! | 👻 1/8/2021 5:29 AM
Augghhhhhhh. I looked into chaos magic once. And then found out that they actually did that. And then I lost interest in that.
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Deleted User 1/8/2021 5:52 AM
yeah thats what they told me too, i guess it makes sense since sexual energy is pretty strong and whatnot
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Lula! | 👻 1/8/2021 5:52 AM
Yeah but, I'll pass. 😂
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Deleted User 1/8/2021 5:53 AM
Lol I dont really have a problem with it, I already produce industrial quantities anyways
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might as well use it for something lmao
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am i cursed or something lol
bodybody | Fox System 1/8/2021 8:49 AM
From the sounds of things they were probably letting you know they'd hexxed you lmao
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if you haven't noticed any effects by now don't worry ;)
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Kamiko would you happen to know why with tulpas, in some cases the members have their own memories and can think independently and simultaneously, and act in "wonderland" away from the body controller's attention (often called "parallel processing"), but in many cases they do not have that ability, and the tulpas go dormant without attention, and can not speak at the same time, and the members all share the same memory?
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From what I've read there's an incomplete understanding of tulpa creation and how to do it fully. Some speculate that the time taken to make a tulpa over months or years results in more capability than in two-hour tulpas.
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It would be nice if the European & European diaspora tulpa "community" was able to ask someone like the Dalai Lama about this. (edited)
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Albino Elephant 1/8/2021 12:21 PM
Some people use you looking at a sigil like that as a way to hex you. If you don't practice then it won't really work that well.
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bodybody | Fox System
if you haven't noticed any effects by now don't worry ;)
Deleted User 1/8/2021 3:15 PM
i dont know how i would notice something like that, i dont really believe in that kind of stuff in the first place so maybe thats why i havent noticed anything? idk
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also what does it mean to hex someone lol
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keep in mind that if a chaos magick practitioner sent it to you, then they probably came on the sigil before sending it
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/8/2021 3:18 PM
can you guys maybe not?
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sex magick can overlap with chaos but is not the same thing by a long shot
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sorry, there's only a possibility that they did***
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/8/2021 3:20 PM
I seriously doubt it
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I've only known chaos practitioners who do it tbh
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/8/2021 3:22 PM
You've never met a druid, demonaloter, norse/roman/greek adherent, green magick practioner, etc?
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Sex magick using body fluids happens across all practices
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I doubt all practices involve that
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yeah but most of the people online sending sigils only do one sorta thing
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